Heated Vaccine Debate – Kennedy Jr. vs Dershowitz | July 23, 2020
Is the “vaccine” going to be “safe”?
Listen to RFK’s points and look them up. Many people have a completely skewed idea about “vaccines.” They have been given very limited information, a false impression. It is like a religion.
My notes (rough)
1) Censorship shouldn’t be going on
2) Jacobsen case was not a case where state was claiming the power to force a vaccine on him. The penalty was $5 fine. He had been previously injured by a vaccine. He took the case to the supreme court, but there is a big chasm between a fine and a forcible injection.
3) This should be voluntary program. Why can’t it be a voluntary program?
4) Trust has evaporated. A certain percentage won’t take the COVID “vaccine”
5) It’s a medical intervention that’s given to healthy people, so we would expect that particular intervention to have particularly rigorous guarantees that it is safe.
6) 2010 study – AHRQ federal agency. 2.6% or 1/40 people seriously injured by vaccines.
16m 42s Agency for Healthcare Research Quality
Not hypothetical that they cause injuries but it is hypothetical that they prevent spread.
7) Vaccine courts have paid out over $4 billion. < 1% of people injured ever get to court Atlantic article May 16, 2010? shown at 17:28 8) Zero liability!! 9) Historical event: DTP pertussis vax was causing brain injury in 1/300 people at one point! The manufacturer then went to Congress and said we can' make vaccines safely. The wording was "unavoidably unsafe" - so they insisted on blanket immunity if they wanted them to continue to make vaccines. 10) RFK said that the proposition that smallpox and polio abolished due to vaccine was not universally accepted! Other diseases disappeared without vax. He refers to a CDC John Hopkins 2000 comprehensive study of that. at 29m 05 has screenshot. Bernard Guyer - Pediatrics – Dec 2000 vol 106 no 6 – “Annual Summary of Vital Statistics .. ”
CONCLUSION: abolition of disease first half 20th century – had nothing to do with vax. Causes were: hygiene, clean water, good food.
Also he refers to Edward Cass (Harvard?) who warned that some would falsely try to give vaccines credit for those health improvements (as opposed to other measures).
11) Another point: when we were young, only 3 vaccines! Nowadays it is (he said something like 17 doses of 16 vaccines for today’s children, after passing the 1989 law giving them blanket immunity. 31m screenshot
12) Another huge point. They are not safety-tested against placebo.
CDC is a quasi military agency. It was formed in national security context to defend against bio agents from enemy nations such as Russia and they wanted to deploy vaccines to defend Americans quickly without having to do 5 years of testing. So they were called “biologics” so that they were exempted from safety standards applied to medicines.
Not a single vaccine has been properly tested for safety before release.
13) At 33m it shows several inserts for polio and gardasil vaccines. In one case it was safety tested only for 48 hours. Hep B vaccine only safety tested for 4 days, or 5 days with another brand. No long-term safety testing.
14) They’re not tested against placebo. So nobody can say a vaccine isn’t causing more deaths than would otherwise occur.
15) 35:24. COVID “vaccine”. They are skipping key parts of testing process! march 13, 2020 – livescience – moderna skipping animal testing!
16) Discussion of initial testing with 45 people. NY times article on screen – -first 45 people “first coronavirus vaccine tested in humans shows early Promise” “appeared safe in the first 45 people” it says
35:32. But RFK: One of the people got so sick they had to be hospitalized. These were the healthiest people – what happens when this is given to general population?! RFK says loss of consciousness, huge fevers. 36:54 shows another screenshot. Need more details because the NY Times screenshots just seem to play down the side effects. 37:15 – NY times screenshot.
17) Quote from Dr. Paul Offit in NY times: paraphrasing: “was not yet known whether they would actually protect people against the virus” “small price to pay” he says about side effects. “though fever may be a cause for concern” “could lead to other things”. “only a large controlled study could determine whether the vaccine is truly safe and effective”
18) RFK says that a normal medicine would be dead on arrival with those trial results.
19) But Fauci put $500 mill into that vax and he owns half the patent
those working for him entitled to collect royalties from it. vax “too big to fail”
zero liability. And they are given tax money to play with.
20) NY Times article about CDC seems to be saying that the most vulnerable will be given the vaccine first! along with other groups
21) Discussion of how the opiate manufacturers were sued successfully because of the huge numbers of deaths. People were ALLOWED to sue them! 42m 30
22) 43m 6 -> Image. RFK saying these companies have been convicted as serial felons for multiple offences related to different products. Long list on screen.
43m 10 -> triangle business journal “big pharma companies that have paid the most in fines” (Look up the criminal convictions. fraud, deaths).
Example at 43m Vioxx NewSientist – “drug giant Merck accused of deaths cover-up” -> caused heart attacks. april 2008? They knew it caused heart attacks – saw signals in clinical trials
43m 57 – image -> “drugwatch” “research linked the drug to thousands of fatal heart attacks”
they knew but decided to release it anyway. paid a 7 billion dollar fine
should have all gone to prison
23) rfk: these 4 companies – doing this with every other product but not with vaccines?!
24) rfk: no, they do not do placebo testing after clinical trials!
25) CDC says “it’s unethical to do placebo trials to compare vaccinated and vaccinated people” so they don’t. “Unethical”! Note the excuse for why they don’t do it. A.D. didn’t seem to be aware of this.
Those who go against that punished for it, funding cut off.
They don’t want vax study to reveal truth about vax injuries
26) 48m 17 – 2015 review of facemasks on screen, apparently same as one he mentions. “facemasks for the prevention of infection in healthcare and community settings”
rfk: says “likely to spread the disease and to make you less healthy because of the co2 you’re breathing in, more likely to get sick” – a lot of contrary science out there he says.
27) Majority vote shouldn’t decide everything. Some things are wrong.
28) 49m31 -> image “top 10 industries by lobbying spending” – pharmaceutical products at top – us congress. Then second image 49:38 -> statista – “leading lobbying industries in the united states”
29) Not just Congress, but agencies are also captured. Example:
50m23 image: Forbes “Bayer to pay more than $10 billion in roundup settlement”
EPA took a position against RFK “glyphosate does not cause cancer” But he says there was an internal internal memo that an EPA official was working secretly for monsanto to distort studies.
30) 51:15 -> FDA 50% of its budget from vaccine companies?
51:21 -> CDC has 11.5 bill budget and 4.9 bill of that is buying, selling & distributing vax
The CDC is a vaccine company! (Also: note that Gates Foundation is a donor to CDC).
The CDC owns 57 vaccine patents
can make money on every sale of a vax
Also NIH owns hundreds of vax patents
NIH owns half the patent for the moderna vax
rules at NIH – you’re allowed to collect 150,000 in royalties per year
these are vax companies
not doing regulation
31) *Dr. william Thompson author of studies e.g one claiming that vax doesn’t cause autism, said 3 years ago, that they were ordered to fake all the science on autism. The data regarding black children had worse results and it was destroyed. He has not been subpoenaed, nor interviewed by mainstream media.
32) RFK: no, he wouldn’t sacrifice people to vaccine injury deaths to save others from COVID
0 chance of healthy person dying of COVID.
33) 59:59 -> Cochrane collaboration image on screen
coronavirus likely to mutate like flu every year – that’s why flu vax keeps changing
giant meta reviews done 2010, 2014, 2017 of vax studies on influenza
CDC claims 35% effective
1. cochrane says no, you have to give 100 flu shots to prevent 1 case of flu
2. zero evidence that flu shot prevents any hospitalizations or any deaths
3. flu shot transmits the flu!! -> 6 times more likely to give someone else the flu
33) 1:01:14 – image of Polio vax -> AP “more polio cases now caused by vaccine than by wild virus”
34) 1:01:30 – chickenpox vax manufacture insert – image – avoid pregnancy for 3 months – not to febrile illness not to active TB. RFK: it warns against going near a pregnant woman for 6 weeks.
RFK also asserts same problem with pertussis vax – you become asymptomatic carrier.
35) With one of the Covid vaccines,- when gave it to monkeys they continued to transmit the disease
Gates & Fauci said on TV: “we’ll give you a vax that protects you but you may still be transmitting it”
People could be running around as asymptomatic carriers because they were given the vax.
Read the vaccine inserts. Read the science.
36) 4.4 times more likely to get non-flu infection – getting sick!!
pathogenic priming – injures your immune system
37) 1:04:12 – pentagon published story Greg C. Wolff “influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel .. . ”
“flu shot primes you for flu and primes you for coronavirus”
6 other studies say same thing – if you get flu shot more likely to get coronavirus
38) since started giving flu shot to elderly people according to COCHRANE, life expectancy of elderly has dramatically gone down.
39) For same reason he mentions first responders also seemed to be getting sicker from COVID because they had flu shot
40) 1:09:26 – rfk talks about oxford cv vax -> run by Andrew Pollard – He promised originally they would test it against placebo.
AT PHASE 2 HE TESTED IT AGAINST A MENINGITIS VAX, NOT INERT PLACEBO
It has 50 deadly serious injuries on its insert
RFK says they use a dangerous vax instead of a proper placebo in order to mask injuries in the vaccine.
Make them test it against a placebo!
He gave that vax to monkeys – macaques, then he exposed them to wild corona virus, and they all got sick. He refuses to test it against placebo. They’re going ahead with it anyway. British government put money into it.
Zero reason to have faith in this.
Those who see their children being damaged by vaccines should not be demeaned and ignored.